A friend who is about 10 years older than me deplored the current era and pined for the good old days when, she said, “people didn’t lock their doors, kids respected their elders and people looked out for each other.” At which point I’m, like, WTF? Kids “respected” their elders because if they didn’t, their parents would beat them black and blue — and often did, there was no such thing as CPS to investigate child abuse, there were children who showed up at school looking like they’d been mugged and nobody did anything. I remember one kid in particular, he hung around our house because he couldn’t hang around his own house because he’d get beat up by his pop. Not that my own dad was much better, but he was at work all the time so there was that. And we certainly locked our doors when we weren’t home, if we didn’t, everything would have been stolen.
The reality is that for a large number of people, the “good old days” weren’t so good. This is especially true if you were black. The street I grew up in during the 1960’s and 1970’s had the houses of rich people up on the hill at one end, and across from them were the houses of the college professors. Moving towards the middle, you had the small homes of the working class whites. And finally at the other end was where the black people lived. You could tell the boundary because the road suddenly went from asphalt to oiled dirt and the trash by the road may or may not have been picked up at some point in the past week (the black end of the street was at the end of the garbage truck’s route, and if the truck was full, the trash there didn’t get picked up).
There was crime. People broke in to houses. There was gunfire. We got a couple of rounds through our front window one night. There was drugs. Heroin and marijuana were available, if you knew who to ask. I learned how to navigate a war zone without getting assaulted or killed, the 7-11 was a favorite destination and required going through the black end of the street to get there, which once open warfare broke out between the white trash on the white side of the line and their equivalent on the black side of the line meant you had to be careful. Occasionally the cops on the all-white police force would show up in force and sweep through the black end of the street, “nigger-knocking” as they called it, being a bunch of racist Irish who were uncouth. Everybody knew that the N-word was white trash and not to be used in civilized conversation, but there was a lot of uncivilized people who used that word and worse.
Our city ended up destroying itself with bigotry and hate. When the desegregation orders came down, they destroyed their park service because “we ain’t gonna have no mixin’ of the races in our public pools, nosirree.” They destroyed their school system by fleeing to the suburbs and starting up new all-white schools, leaving the center of the city to rot, and a city with no heart is a city with no soul. They destroyed city services because “better we have nothing than a single nigger benefit from our tax money.” The legacy of bigotry and hate caused all major industry to leave the city. There was a major oil and gas company headquartered there when I was a child. Appalled, they pulled out and moved their headquarters to Houston, taking 10,000 jobs with them. And they were just one of the companies that pulled out in that era.
The last time I was there, it was like one of those aerial photographs of Berlin in 1946 after most of the rubble had been cleared but before anything had been built in its place. It was as if the city had been bombed. There were entire neighborhoods where there was at most one or two houses on a block, and nothing left of the remaining houses other than holes in the ground where their cellars had been.
I’m failing to see the “good old days” in all this. I am glad, very glad, to have not grown up in the era of lynchings. But I did get to see a whole lot of bigotry and hate up close and personal. I see that in a lot of the criticisms of President Obama from the right, too, but at least today it’s not acceptable to call a man the N-word in public, and a black man and a white woman can marry without causing a race riot.
As far as crime goes, my neighborhood here in Santa Clara is ridiculously safe. We look out for each other and while you should definitely lock your door because of transients passing through, I’ve forgotten my door unlocked multiple times and nothing’s ever happened. And respect? Well. My twenty-something co-workers don’t respect you because of your age. But they certainly respect skill and knowledge.
I’ve seen the “good old days” up close and personal and I’ve seen now. I’ll take now, thank you very much…
– Badtux the Unsentimental Penguin
On a lighter note, back in the good old days we experienced dial tones and busy signals. Kids these days, not so much….darn cell phones are making ’em soft!
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The violent video games do worry me. But then I remember the violent games we played as kids and, well. Americans are just violent.
I think the breakdown was urban vs rural. In the 60’s and 70’s urban areas were caught up in drugs and racial violence. Rural areas, not so much, because the KKK was still powerful out there and much of the black population had migrated to places like Los Angeles and Detroit to work on war industries during WW2. There’s still a lot of inbred white trash out there but the KKK has mostly died with the WW2 “greatest generation” (what a bunch of bull, they were racist fucks who were the front-line soldiers of resistance to segregation in the South) and there’s a whole lot of mixed-race babies out there now as the old taboos crumble with much of the younger generation. Not *all* of the younger generation, there’s still a bunch of racist trash out there, but they’re more and more marginalized with each passing year. Thus why President Obama drives them to frothing insanity…
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I remember being an ace in high school and college and then being told upon graduation that girls aren’t allowed to have good jobs. Typing was the only skill I got to use. Good times.
And yeah, in my little suburb they covered over the big, nice swimming pool I grew up using rather than integrate the thing. Lately they’ve been trying to get some of the well-heeled, yuppie loft-dwellers to buy homes out there, but it’s not working.
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Yeah, my old home city they’re trying to get the well heeled yuppie loft dweller types to move in and refurbish what little they didn’t manage to destroy during the 60’s and 70’s, but it’s not really working out too well. The city is majority black now because the white people all moved out to the suburbs to nearly-all-white neighborhoods but unlike Atlanta, they haven’t managed to rebuild a viable economy to take the place of the one they destroyed with ignorance and hate. It doesn’t help that people in that state are virulently against providing any government services that would make life more pleasant even today because black people might use those services. It’s the same mentality that closed that swimming pool, in the end. Scratch an anti-tax zealot, and 9 times out of 10 you’ll reveal a bigot.
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[…] it takes is to point out to a person that they said something racist for them to come out with a beautiful post on how all nostalgic references to the good old days are offensive. A beautiful, beautiful post. It takes a lot to appease my sensibilities in this area but this post […]
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Uhm, no, Clarissa. The woman in question is not racist, she has mixed-race grandchildren and their (black) father shows up regularly on her Facebook page in the photos of the grandkids. She’s oblivious, not racist. She grew up in a small rural California town where there were no black people, and genuinely had no idea of the problems faced by city dwellers, black people, and women who weren’t interested in being housewives during the time that she so wistfully thought of as the good old days.
And this post had nothing to do with your idiotic accusations that everybody under the sun is racist (man, for a Ukrainian you sure do see racism everywhere), it was a direct response to her wistful statements on her Facebook page about the “good old days” (and basically ported from my comments on my own Facebook, which you don’t get access to because only my real-life friends get access to it).
In fact, this post isn’t even new, for the most part. It has components of two other posts on my blog from years back in some cases. Thus why I had a ready response to this woman’s pining for the “good old days”….
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Sounds like Detroit today, or Harlem and the South Bronx in the 60s and 70s.
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Rules, dude.
And I can talk about inbred white trash ’cause I is one.
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“The Good Old Days” are just the speaker’s youth, suitably mis-remembered and whitewashed to make them seem good, or at least tolerable. MY hometown seemed okay, but if you looked closely, it was not a great place. 24 bars in a town of 8,000; lousy schools (but a great foo’boll team!) one in three people illiterate, and an economy controlled by a small group trying to hold on to their goodies as the railroad died and the factories left. Seventy years ago anyone with brains left the moment they got out of high school, and that continues to this day, leaving the slugs – er, “Town Fathers” wondering what’s wrong with them. I’d give them a list, but they may not be able to read it.
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Most people are oblivious to what is going on around them. I didn’t spend a lot of time pondering what was going wrong with the city I was growing up in, but I knew something bad was happening, because I was always the little pitcher that had big ears. It took growing up to figure out what exactly went wrong though. At which point I got as far away from there as I could without moving to another continent. But most of the people I grew up with never noticed. It was what they grew up with, so it was normal to them.
This woman’s youth was spent in a small company town reliant upon a single industry, back in the days when there was a compact of sort between labor and industry where they agreed to take care of each other in exchange for lack of strife. Then the company broke the union and slashed pay, and the workers quit caring about the company and started looting the place so bad that they had to hire guards to keep machine tools and welding equipment from walking out the door, and even that wasn’t enough. It seems that if you fuck over workers, they do their best to fuck you over too. So anyhow, fucking over workers proved to be rather unprofitable, so they went through the repeated downsizing of most dying industries, and now that town is best known for meth and boarded up houses. Given the difference between what she grew up in and what’s there now, I can see why she would pine for the good old days. But it doesn’t change the fact that her pining is because she had a very insular youth, not because the good old days were, in fact, very good — which they weren’t for most people, especially women and people of color.
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It’s a common psychological trait to think that things were better in the past, even when that view is not grounded in reality. Many peoples’ present lives are miserable. It makes it easier to bear the current agony if one can contrast it in one’s mind that “Things were great when I was a child.” Perhaps we’re primed to do that because if there was not a rosy alternative somewhere, the human condition would seem so miserable and pointless that one might just as well commit suicide straight away. Also, too, as children, we are not as aware of the undercurrent of nastiness in the way society is set up, so we think things are better than they are. This is partly because of children’s lack of sophistication, but also because if kids had evolved to see things as hopeless, they’d fail to thrive, die off and not propagate the species.
The above musings only apply to children raised in half-decent, not-a-screaming-hellhole households, of course.
The vision of a perfect past is what motivates conservatives and nationalists too. “Back before this (insert whatever modern evil you choose) was around, things were wonderful!” or “Back in the days of our noble forefathers, when the race was pure…”
Humans are also hard-wired to forget the bad things in life. Again, a survival instinct. Not necessarily a bad thing. That’s why women can have more than one child, eh? In the psych wards where I work (I’ve got such a good gig here, Tux — on-call through a nursing agency and the mental health staffing bank at the hospital where I worked from 2005-2009, so I go to facilities all over the Melbourne metro area) I see patients with the opposite perspective. They’re fixated on past abuses, many of which never happened, and have delusionally depressive views of the past. Consequently, their lives suck. Better to be like the Facebook lady you cite than an angry, morose past-hater. Best still to have a realistic view of life, though.
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There are certainly things that I could hate about my own past (I hinted at one of them above), but reality is what it is, and the man is dead, so. I moved on. The past is the past, but the past is not the present.
Most children are oblivious. But some little pitchers have big ears. I didn’t understand what was going on around me when I was growing up, but I could tell it wasn’t good. Swimming pools I swam in when very small got filled in with concrete, beautiful old buildings became run-down and businesses closed, and the schools and parks started getting run down or were closed. Thriving businesses became sad shadows of what they had once been, and the feel of doom in the air was palpable — if you were paying attention. But most people, regardless of age, don’t pay attention. Maybe for the reasons you allude to — lies are calm and soothing, while the truth is hard and hopeless.
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Speaking of liking pie, whatever happened to Ol’ Billygoat Cook? Did he have to adopt a new screen name (see above) or did he fade from the scene, dead of some deteriorated medical condition or a self-inflicted gunshot wound? Why maybe now, as I write these words, flies are laying eggs on his undiscovered corpse in that rustic house trailer, and maggots are squirming through his rotten flesh… In which case, you could say he finally did something good for the planet.
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